Hello again friend,
When I was in Jr. College I began to examine all the different viewpoints that relate to the doctrine we call "The Rapture." I was surprised to discover there are so many differing viewpoints.
- Pre-Tribulation Rapture (Gathering Prior to the Tribulation)
- Mid-Tribulation Rapture (Gathering during the Tribulation)
- Post-Tribulation Rapture (Gathering after the Tribulation)
- Amillennialism
- Preterism
My own personal studies; which I have spent almost fifteen (15) years in deep examination of the Bible's text; and, other apocryphal books such as Enoch; and 2nd Esdras, have led me to a place where I believe that "the gathering" which so many people refer to as "the rapture" will be following a time of Great Tribulation; great upheaval; and, great Chaos.
I firmly believe that we shall be gathered on the same day that "the Wrath of the Lamb" begins; just as Noah; and, his family were gathered into the Ark; and, it began to rain. This viewpoint is called:
"The Pre-wrath Position"
Prior to my very serious investigation I was in the "Pre-Tribulation Rapture" camp as that is what my home church "Calvary Chapel" a non-denominal expository teaching group of Churches across the Nation.
I have decided to share the materials I have studied; to include a Magazine called "Parousia" and the material I used when studying out the Pre-Wrath Position. I hope that these will benefit you as you Work Out Your Own Salvation With Fear and Trembling (Philippians 2:12).
One of the things that I noticed when reading articles; and, watching teachings about the "rapture" was the heavy usage of the term "rapture" which appears nowhere in the text of the Bible regardless of translation that is used. This term has become adopted from 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 which describes believers being "caught up" (αρπαγησομεθα) "ARPAGESOMETHA" [labeled as G726 by Strong's] to meet the Lord in the air; and, Matthew 24:40-42, where Jesus speaks of two people working together with one being taken; and, the other left.
This term used in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 has the Greek Root of (ἁρπάζω) harpazō; which appears a total of 18 times in the KJV which is our starting point. Here is where; and, how it is used in the New Testament.
- caught (5) times:
Acts: 8:39, 2 Corinthians: 12:2, 2 Corinthians: 12:4, 1 Thessalonians: 4:17, Rev: 12:5 - force (3) times:
Matthew: 11:12, John: 6:15, Acts: 23:10 - take (3) times
Matthew: 11:12, John: 6:15, Acts: 23:10 - away (2) times:
Matthew: 13:19, Acts: 8:39 - catcheth (2) times:
Matthew: 13:19, John: 10:12 - pluck (2) times:
John: 10:28-29 (2) - pulling (1) time: Jude: 1:23
One of the things that I learned to do (was taught to me) was the "back translation" of the Greek Text into the Hebrew meaning by the late Brad Scott of Wild Branch Ministries LINK. Brad has a teaching video series on Research at the link below. I encourage you to collect hard copies of these resources as we will need them in the future when we are deprived of electricity to operate computers; cellular phones etc. I tell you the truth. It is coming sooner than you think.
Friend I tell you the truth. The (WEF) World Economic Forum has repeatedly stated there WILL be a "cyber attack" that will make the Covid19 crisis seem like a minor disturbance. What we recently saw in Europe (power outages) that troubled Spain, Portugal, France, and Andora was a "test run" to see how the public would respond. This will create incredible chaos; and, provide a cover for those intent upon doing evil to operate with impunity while keeping the rest of the globe in the dark about what is really happening.
I personally use the LXX as a bridge by examining it for the EXACT TENSE/EXACT SPELLING of the New Testament term to locate the underlying Hebrew meaning. This is not foolproof; but, does offer more data in the way of more passages to examine than just the New Testament appearance; and, usage of terms.
Remember, the New Testament is only 23% of the Bible's text; many are ignoring the usage; and, appearance of Greek terms in the Old Testament (LXX) which makes up 77% of the Bible's text.
BE LIKE THE BEREANS
In this case when we search the LXX for (αρπαγησομεθα) "ARPAGESOMETHA" we come up with ZERO appearances using the Greek OT E-Sword Module. However when we switch to searching for the ROOT term "HARPADZO" (ἁρπάζω) here is what we discover.
2 Thessalonians 2:1:"Now brethren, concerning the "COMING" (παρουσίας) of our Lord Jesus Christ; and, our "GATHERING" (ἐπισυναγωγῆς) together to Him...
Here is the Textus Receptus with the term "episunagoges" highlighted.
- Matthew 13
"Let them both grow together until the harvest; and, at the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, 'First gather together the tares; and, bind them in bundles to burn them; but, gather the wheat into my barn.' "
- Matthew 13:41-42
"The Son of Man will send out His angels; and, they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend; and, those who practice lawlessness (Torah-less-ness); and, will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing; and, gnashing of teeth."
The entire "thief in the night" idea needs this to be considered. When a thief enters the house; he removes that which does not belong to him, from the masters house. When Messiah comes He will remove "gather out" that which does not belong to him from His kingdom. - Matthew 24:31
"And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet; and, they will gather together His elect from the four winds; from one end of heaven to the other." - Mark 13:27
"And then He will send His angels; and, gather together His elect from the four winds; from the farthest part of the earth to the farthest part of heaven." - Luke 3:17
"His winnowing fan is in His hand; and, He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor; and, gather the wheat into His barn; but, the chaff He will burn with unquenchable fire." - Luke 13:34
"Oh Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets; and, stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together; as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, but you were not willing! See! Your house is left to you desolate; and, assuredly I say to you; you shall not see Me until the time comes when you say, 'Blessed is He who comes in the name of the LORD!'"
(Here it appears that Yeshua is citing 2 Esdras 1:28-33) LINK
Ok. I'm not going to take you through all the appearances of gather, gathers, gathered; and, gathering. That my friends is YOUR HOMEWORK!!!
For now I would like you to turn with me in your own Bibles to
"15. For this we say to you by the Word of the Lord [YESHUA IS THE WORD]; that we who are alive and remain (περιλειπόμενοι) until the coming of the Lord [YESHUA] will by no means precede those who are asleep
Meaning those who are alive and remain WILL NOT BE "CAUGHT UP" until those who are "asleep" aka "dead" have been resurrected. The "gathering;" also called "the rapture" of the remnant WILL NOT OCCUR UNTIL THE 1ST RESURRECTION HAS TAKEN PLACE.
16. For the Lord Himself [YESHUA] will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel; and, with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise FIRST.
THIS IS A RESURRECTION EVENT AKA THE FIRST RESURRECTION AKA THE RESURRECTION OF THE "JUST."
17. Then we who are alive and remain (περιλειπόμενοι) shall be caught up (HARPADZO) together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.
18. Therefore comfort one another with these words.
I remember reading these words and wonder why would we need to "comfort" one another? So I went back into the passage and looked more closely at the term "remain." Here is what I discovered.
The phrase "the Living God" appears 30 times in the NKJV text of our Western Bibles. With its first appearance in Deuteronomy 5:26. My suggestion is that you study out this phrase in as many versions as you can. My own personal examination took place online with BlueletterBible.com and yielded the following results.
"And I looked; and, behold a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and, a crown was given to him; and, he went out conquering; and, to conquer." Revelation 6:2.
We are going to look at Barak Hussein Obama for a short time. I do not personally believe that He is the Antichrist; however, I do believe he is playing for THAT CAMP; and, not the camp of the Elect who worship Yeshua as the Messiah; and, The Living God.
According to Revelation 6:1-8 the colors of the horses ridden are in this order:
White, Fiery Red, Black, and, Green.
Many bibles say "a pale horse" however the Greek term which is often rendered "pale" is (χλωρος) Strong's # G5515 chlōros pronounced "khlo-ros'" From the same as G5514; greenish, that is, verdant, dun-colored: - green, pale.. G5514 means the following: Χλόη Chloē pronounced "khlo'-ay" Feminine of apparently a primary word; “green”; Chloe, a Christian female: - Chloe.
I have since I was active in Prison Ministry held to the belief system that Revelation is warning us about Islam; and, there are many other passages within the Bible's text to point directly at it without directly naming it. Why? Because of Daniel 12:10 that's why. Follow me there in your own Bible please.
"10. Many shall be purified, made white; and, refined, but the wicked shall do wickedly; and, none of the wicked shall understand; but, the wise shall understand."
Those who are blindly following Muhammad do not understand what the Bible actually teaches.
It is my belief that revelation chapter six is referring to Islamic expansion. Mehemet II is the rider on the white horse in Revelation 6. Using this as a premise please identify the other three Islamic rulers. Red, black, green.
Here is GROK'S answer to my premise:
Your belief interprets Revelation 6, which describes the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, as symbolizing Islamic expansion, with Mehmed II (r. 1444–1446, 1451–1481) as the rider on the white horse. Using this premise, I’ll identify three Islamic rulers who could correspond to the riders on the red, black, and pale green horses, based on their historical roles, conquests, and alignment with the symbolic characteristics of each horseman (war, famine/economic hardship, and death).
The interpretation draws on the historical context of Ottoman expansion following Mehmed II, as well as the imagery and effects described in Revelation 6:3–8. Since Revelation’s symbolism is open to interpretation, I’ll ground the choices in historical impact and plausibility within your framework, while noting that this is a speculative exercise rooted in your specific premise.
Context and Methodology
Revelation 6 describes:
White Horse (Rev 6:2)
Rider with a bow, given a crown, goes out conquering. You assign this to Mehmed II, likely due to his conquest of Constantinople in 1453, a pivotal moment in Islamic expansion, earning him the title “The Conqueror.”
Red Horse (Rev 6:4)
Rider with a great sword, takes peace from the earth, causing people to kill one another, symbolizing war and bloodshed.
Black Horse (Rev 6:5–6)
Rider with scales, associated with famine, economic hardship, and scarcity (e.g., high prices for wheat and barley, sparing oil and wine).
Pale Green Horse (Rev 6:8)
Rider named Death, with Hades following, given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine, pestilence, and wild beasts, symbolizing mass death and destruction.
Given Mehmed II’s era (15th century, Ottoman Empire), I’ll select rulers from the Ottoman dynasty or contemporaneous Islamic leaders whose reigns align with the symbolic outcomes of war, economic disruption, and death, focusing on their contributions to Islamic expansion. The rulers will be chosen from the Ottoman line for consistency, as Mehmed II was an Ottoman sultan, and the Ottoman Empire was the primary vehicle for Islamic expansion in this period. I’ll avoid modern figures or early Islamic caliphs (e.g., Muhammad, Abu Bakr) to maintain temporal proximity to Mehmed II, unless evidence strongly suggests otherwise.
Proposed Rulers
1. Red Horse: Selim I (r. 1512–1520)
**Why Selim I?**
Selim I, known as “Selim the Grim,” was Mehmed II’s great-grandson and a ferocious warrior whose reign was marked by massive bloodshed and territorial expansion, fitting the red horse’s symbolism of war and slaughter. His campaigns drastically expanded Ottoman territory and solidified Islamic dominance.
**Historical Alignment**
**Conquests & Bloodshed**
Selim I conquered the Mamluk Sultanate (1516–1517), annexing Syria, Egypt, and the Hejaz, including the holy cities of Mecca and Medina. His defeat of the Mamluks at the Battle of Marj Dabiq (1516) and Ridaniya (1517) involved significant slaughter, aligning with “people killing one another.” He also waged war against the Safavid Empire, defeating them at Chaldiran (1514), which involved brutal purges of Shiite Muslims within Ottoman lands (tens of thousands executed).
**Great Sword**
The “great sword” symbolizes military power and violence. Selim’s ruthless campaigns and use of advanced artillery and Janissary forces reflect this destructive capacity.
**Taking Peace**
His aggressive expansion disrupted regional stability, sparking conflicts with Safavids, Mamluks, and European powers, removing peace from the eastern Mediterranean and Middle East.
**Connection to Islamic Expansion**
Selim I’s conquests made the Ottoman Empire the preeminent Islamic power, assuming the caliphate after defeating the Mamluks. His wars spread Sunni Islam’s dominance, aligning with your premise of Islamic expansion.
**Temporal Fit**
Ruling shortly after Mehmed II, Selim I represents a continuation of Ottoman conquest, making him a logical successor in the sequence.
2. Black Horse: Suleiman I (r. 1520–1566)
**Why Suleiman I?**
Suleiman I, known as “Suleiman the Magnificent,” was Selim I’s son and presided over the Ottoman Empire’s zenith, but his reign also saw economic strains and logistical challenges that align with the black horse’s symbolism of scarcity and economic hardship. His extensive campaigns and governance reforms impacted the empire’s economy, fitting the rider with scales.
**Historical Alignment**
**Scales and Scarcity**
The “pair of scales” and the voice proclaiming high prices for wheat and barley (Rev 6:6) suggest famine or economic distress. Suleiman’s prolonged military campaigns, including sieges of Vienna (1529), Hungary, and Rhodes (1522), strained Ottoman resources. Maintaining a vast empire required heavy taxation and requisitioning of grain, leading to localized shortages and economic pressure on subjects, particularly in conquered regions.
**Sparing Oil and Wine**
The command to “not harm the oil and wine” may imply that luxury goods or elite interests were preserved. Suleiman’s era saw flourishing trade (e.g., silk and spices) and protection of wealthier classes, while commoners faced higher costs for staples like grain.
**Economic Administration**
Suleiman’s legal reforms (hence “the Lawgiver”) standardized taxation and trade, but his expansionist policies stretched the empire’s logistics, causing periodic inflation and supply issues, especially in frontier regions.
**Connection to Islamic Expansion**
Suleiman advanced Islamic rule into Europe (e.g., Hungary, Belgrade) and the Mediterranean (e.g., Rhodes, North Africa). His codification of Islamic law (Sharia) and patronage of mosques (e.g., Süleymaniye Mosque) strengthened Islam’s cultural and political presence.
**Temporal Fit**: As Selim I’s successor, Suleiman follows logically in the sequence, with his reign reflecting the economic consequences of rapid expansion.
3. Pale Green Horse: Murad IV (r. 1623–1640)
**Why Murad IV?**
Murad IV, a later Ottoman sultan, is associated with the pale green horse (symbolizing death) due to his brutal campaigns, internal purges, and the devastating toll of his reign, which included famine, plague, and widespread mortality. His era reflects the cumulative effects of Ottoman overreach and aligns with the rider named Death.
**Historical Alignment**
**Death and Hades**
Revelation 6:8 describes the rider as “Death,” with “Hades” (the grave) following, killing by sword, famine, pestilence, and wild beasts over a “fourth of the earth.” Murad IV’s reign was marked by extreme violence and mortality:
**Military Campaigns**
He reconquered Baghdad (1638) from the Safavids and waged wars in the Caucasus and Persia, with significant casualties due to harsh conditions and brutal tactics.
**Internal Repression**
Murad IV executed thousands to restore order, including mass purges of Janissaries and rebels. His draconian rule earned him a fearsome reputation, with estimates of up to 100,000 executions.
**Famine and Pestilence**
The early 17th century saw famines and plagues across the Ottoman Empire, exacerbated by war and over taxation. The “Little Ice Age” caused crop failures, and diseases like plague ravaged cities like Istanbul, aligning with “pestilence.”
**Wild Beasts**
This could symbolize chaotic violence or predatory governance. Murad’s use of irregular troops and harsh punishments created a climate of fear and disorder.
**Fourth of the Earth**
While not literal, the Ottoman Empire under Murad spanned parts of three continents (Europe, Asia, Africa), roughly a significant portion of the known world, and his policies caused widespread death across this domain.
**Connection to Islamic Expansion**
Murad IV’s conquests (e.g., Baghdad) and restoration of Sunni orthodoxy (e.g., banning alcohol and coffee) reinforced Islamic governance, though his reign marked the beginning of Ottoman stagnation.
**Temporal Fit**
Murad IV is further removed from Mehmed II, but his reign reflects the long-term consequences of imperial overextension, fitting the climactic devastation of the fourth horseman.
Rationale for Selection
**Why Ottoman Rulers?**
Mehmed II was an Ottoman sultan, and the Ottoman Empire was the dominant force in Islamic expansion from the 15th to 17th centuries, conquering Christian and Muslim territories alike. Sticking to Ottoman rulers maintains consistency and aligns with the historical context of your premise.
**Why These Rulers?**
**Selim I (Red)**
His bloody conquests and massacres directly caused war and slaughter, matching the red horse’s role.
**Suleiman I (Black)**
His reign’s economic strains and logistical challenges reflect the black horse’s scarcity, despite his grandeur.
**Murad IV (Pale Green)**
His brutal rule, combined with famine and plague, embodies the death and destruction of the pale green horse.
**Alternative Candidates Considered**
**Bayezid I (r. 1389–1402)**
His wars (e.g., Nicopolis, 1396) were bloody, but he predates Mehmed II, disrupting the timeline.
**Osman I (r. 1299–1323)**
Founder of the Ottoman dynasty, but too early and less impactful than later sultans.
**Early Caliphs (e.g., Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman)**
Suggested in some interpretations (e.g.,), but their 7th-century context is distant from Mehmed II’s 15th-century era, and their conquests predate the Ottoman framework.[](https://revelation-now.org/four-horsemen-revelation-apocalypse-is-fulfilled-by-islam/)
**Selim II (r. 1566–1574)**
Considered for the black horse due to economic decline post-Suleiman, but his reign was less impactful than Murad IV’s for the pale green horse’s death toll.
**Why Not Modern Figures?**
Modern leaders like Bashar Assad (suggested in) don’t fit the historical context of Mehmed II’s era and lack the same scale of Islamic expansion. https://www.isawthelightministries.com/4horsemen.html
Addressing the Premise
Your interpretation aligns with some modern theories that link Revelation 6’s horsemen to Islamic expansion, noting the colors (white, red, black, pale green) resemble those in some Islamic flags (e.g., Pan-Arab colors or Ottoman banners) (,). However, critics argue this view is selective, as many Muslim-majority nations’ flags don’t feature these colors, and the Greek terms for the colors (e.g., “chloros” for pale green) don’t perfectly match Islamic symbolism (,). Within your premise, the Ottoman sultans chosen here reflect a progression of conquest (Mehmed II), war (Selim I), economic strain (Suleiman I), and death (Murad IV), mirroring the escalating judgments in Revelation 6.
Caveats and Considerations
**Symbolic Interpretation**
Revelation’s imagery is highly symbolic, and applying it to specific historical figures is speculative. The horsemen are often interpreted as broader forces (e.g., conquest, war, famine, death) rather than individuals (,).
**Historical Fit**
While these rulers align with the horsemen’s effects, the “fourth of the earth” (Rev 6:8) and other details may not literally match Ottoman history, requiring a figurative reading.
**Alternative Views**
Some interpret the white horse as Christ or the Antichrist, not an Islamic ruler (,). Others link the horsemen to early Islamic caliphs (,) or modern events, but these don’t fit your Mehmed II premise.
Final Answer
Based on your premise that Revelation 6 refers to Islamic expansion with Mehmed II as the white horse rider, the other three Islamic rulers are:
**Red Horse**
Selim I (r. 1512–1520), for his bloody conquests and wars.
**Black Horse**
Suleiman I (r. 1520–1566), for economic strains and scarcity amid expansion.
**Pale Green Horse**
Murad IV (r. 1623–1640), for widespread death via war, famine, and pestilence.
"Chop down the tree; and, cut off its branches, strip off its leaves; and, scatter its fruit. Let the beasts get out from under it; and, the birds from its branches. 15. Nevertheless leave the stump and roots in the earth; bound with a band of IRON and BRONZE..."
- The first like a LION
- The second like a BEAR
- Another (the third) like a LEOPARD
- The fourth beast dreadful and terrible exceedingly strong with huge iron teeth; it was devouring; breaking in pieces; and, trampling the residue with its feet. It was different from all the beasts before it; and it had ten horns. (These correspond to the 10 toes of the Feet of Iron and Clay in King Nebuchadnezzar's dream from Daniel Chapter 2.) I'm going to assert to you that this beast labeled (#4) in Daniel; is the same beast we read about in Revelation Chapter 13:1-10 that rises out of the sea.
Rev 13:14 "And he deceives those who dwell on the earth...telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword; and, lived. 15 He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast; that the beast should both speak; and, cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. 16. He causes all, both small; and, great, rich; and, poor, free; and, slave, to receive a mark on their right hand; or, on their foreheads 17 and that no one may buy; or sell except one who has the mark; or, the name of the beast; or, the number of his name. 18. Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666."
We shall solve this together. Except AFTER we examine Revelation 17. Take note of this because we will circle back around to it.
"They also say: 'Allah has commanded us to believe in no Rasool ["prophet"] unless he shows us a sacrifice consumed by a fire from heaven."
20 "The ram which you saw, having the two horns--the kings of Media; and, Persia. [Darius the Meade; and, Cyrus the Persian] 21 And the male goat is the Kingdom of Greece. The large horn that is between its eyes is the FIRST KING [which would be Alexander the Great]. 22 As for the broken horn; and, the four (4) that stood up in its place, four (4) kingdoms shall arise out of that nation, but not with its power.
- # 1. Head of Gold: The Babylonian Empire (King Nebuchadnezzar)
- # 2. Chest & Arms of Silver: Media/Perisa (Darius the Meade/ Cyrus the Persian)
- # 3. Belly & Thighs of Bronze: The Grecian Empire (Alexander the Great)
- # 4. Legs of Iron (traditionally taught is Rome; however Rome is not the Beast of Iron.
- # 4. Final Stage of the Iron Empire Feet and Toes of Iron & Clay
40 "And the fourth kingdom shall be as strong as iron, inasmuch as iron breaks in pieces; and, shatters everything; and, like iron that crushes that kingdom will break in pieces; and, crush all the others. 41. Whereas you saw the feet; and, toes, partly of potter's clay; and, partly of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; yet the strength of the iron shall be in it, just as you saw the iron mixed with ceramic clay. 42 And the toes of the feet partly of iron; and, partly of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong; and, partly fragile. 43. As you saw iron mixed with ceramic clay; they will mingle with the seed of men; but, they will not adhere to one another, just as iron does not mix with clay."
The tradition understanding that is taught is that this is the Roman Empire which was in-fact divided into an East-West Schism. The Holy Roman Empire to the West; and, the Byzantine Roman Empire to the East.
The problem with labeling the IRON as Rome is that the IRON is said to break in pieces; and, crush all the others. Meaning it MUST conquer the three (3) listed in Daniel 2. Namely Babylon; Media/Persia; and, the Grecian Empire.
Although Rome was responsible for conquering the Seleucid Empire it never held the great geographical influence which the Seleucid Empire Commanded.
Please take note that this map below shows us the peak geographical influence of the Roman Empire. Although the Roman Empire was indeed vast; it was not as vast (within the Levant) as the Seleucid Empire. Notice the Romans conquered; and, held the land as far as the Tigris and the Euphrates rivers in Mesopotamia.
8. The beast that you saw was [existed in the past]; and, is not [didn't exist when John was writing Rev.]; and, will ascend out of the bottomless pit; and, go to perdition. And those who dwell on the earth will marvel, whose names are not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world, when they see the beast that was; and, is not; and, yet is [will exist again]. 9. Here is the mind that has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits [the harlot]. 10. There are also seven kings. Five have fallen [no longer exist]; one is [this one exists as John is writing the book of Revelation] and the other has not yet come [that makes seven]. And when he comes [# 7], he must continue a short time. 11. The beast that was; and, is not is himself the eighth [8th]; and, is of the seven; and, is going to perdition. 12. The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet; but, they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast."
Let's look at this and solve it like a math problem using what we DO know and then solving for the unknowns shall we? Revelation 17 tells us that five have fallen and one "IS."
- 1. Fallen
- 2. Fallen
- 3. Fallen
- 4. Fallen
- 5. Fallen
- 6. ONE IS
- 7. THE OTHER
- 8. FINAL KING
- 1. FALLEN
- 2. FALLEN
- 3. FALLEN
- 4. FALLEN
- 5. FALLEN
- 6. ROME
- 7. THE OTHER
- 8. THE FINAL KING
OK. SO WHAT EMPIRES FELL BEFORE ROME?
# 3. The Babylonian Empire.
- 1. EGYPT
- 2. ASSYRIA
- 3. BABYLON
- 4. MEDO-PERSIAN
- 5. GRECIAN
- 6. ROMAN
- 7. THE OTHER
- 8. THE FINAL KING
- 1. EGYPTIAN EMPIRE
- 2. ASSYRIAN EMPIRE
- 3. BABYLONIAN EMPIRE
- 4. MEDO-PERSIAN EMPIRE
- 5. GRECIAN EMPIRE
- 6. ROMAN EMPIRE (BOTH LEGS EAST & WEST)
- 7. OTTOMAN EMPIRE
- 8. THE FINAL BEAST KING FOLLOWED BY THE STAGE OF 10 TEN KINGS JUST LIKE THE 10 TOES OF THE IMAGE SEEN BY KING NEBUCHADNEZZAR
12 'Then it will come to pass, when seventy years are completed, that I will punish the king of Babylon and that nation, the land of the Chaldeans, for their iniquity,' says the Lord; 'and I will make it a perpetual desolation.
13 So I will bring on that land all My words which I have pronounced against it, all that is written in this book, which Jeremiah has prophesied concerning all the nations.
14 (For many nations and great kings shall be served by them also; and I will repay them according to their deeds and according to the works of their own hands.)' "
15 For thus says the Lord God of Israel to me: "Take this wine cup of fury from My hand, and cause all the nations, to whom I send you, to drink it.
16 And they will drink and stagger and go mad because of the sword that I will send among them."
17 Then I took the cup from the Lord's hand, and made all the nations drink, to whom the Lord had sent me:
18 Jerusalem and the cities of Judah, its kings and its princes, to make them a desolation, an astonishment, a hissing, and a curse, as it is this day;
19 Pharaoh king of Egypt, his servants, his princes, and all his people;
20 all the mixed multitude, all the kings of the land of Uz, all the kings of the land of the Philistines (namely, Ashkelon, Gaza, Ekron, and the remnant of Ashdod);
21 Edom, Moab, and the people of Ammon;
22 all the kings of Tyre, all the kings of Sidon, and the kings of the coastlands which are across the sea;
23 Dedan, Tema, Buz, and all who are in the farthest corners;
24 all the kings of Arabia and all the kings of the mixed multitude who dwell in the desert;
25 all the kings of Zimri, all the kings of Elam, and all the kings of the Medes;
26 all the kings of the north, far and near, one with another; and all the kingdoms of the world which are on the face of the earth. Also the king of Sheshach shall drink after them.
27 "Therefore you shall say to them, 'Thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: "Drink, be drunk, and vomit! Fall and rise no more, because of the sword which I will send among you." '
28 And it shall be, if they refuse to take the cup from your hand to drink, then you shall say to them, 'Thus says the Lord of hosts: "You shall certainly drink!
29 For behold, I begin to bring calamity on the city which is called by My name, and should you be utterly unpunished? You shall not be unpunished, for I will call for a sword on all the inhabitants of the earth," says the Lord of hosts.'
30 "Therefore prophesy against them all these words, and say to them: 'The Lord will roar from on high, And utter His voice from His holy habitation; He will roar mightily against His fold. He will give a shout, as those who tread the grapes, Against all the inhabitants of the earth.
31 A noise will come to the ends of the earth-- For the Lord has a controversy with the nations; He will plead His case with all flesh. He will give those who are wicked to the sword,' says the Lord."
32 Thus says the Lord of hosts: "Behold, disaster shall go forth From nation to nation, And a great whirlwind shall be raised up From the farthest parts of the earth.
33 And at that day the slain of the Lord shall be from one end of the earth even to the other end of the earth. They shall not be lamented, or gathered, or buried; they shall become refuse on the ground.
34 "Wail, shepherds, and cry! Roll about in the ashes, You leaders of the flock! For the days of your slaughter and your dispersions are fulfilled; You shall fall like a precious vessel.
35 And the shepherds will have no way to flee, Nor the leaders of the flock to escape.
36 A voice of the cry of the shepherds, And a wailing of the leaders to the flock will be heard. For the Lord has plundered their pasture,
37 And the peaceful dwellings are cut down Because of the fierce anger of the Lord.
38 He has left His lair like the lion; For their land is desolate Because of the fierceness of the Oppressor, And because of His fierce anger."
- PSALM 68:4
- ISAIAH 12:2
- ISAIAH 26:4
- ISAIAH 38:11
Sura 5:46:
This verse explicitly mentions that Jesus was given the Gospel (Injil) by Allah, confirming the teachings of the Torah.Sura 19:30 and 3:3:
These verses highlight the Injil as a book revealed by Allah, similar to the Quran and the Torah.Sura 5:68:
This verse instructs followers of the Book to hold fast to the Torah and the Injil, along with any revelations they receive from their Lord, according to the Quran and its Message
The Quran states that Allah has no son through several verses, including Surah Al-Imran 3:47, Surah Maryam 19:35, Surah Al-Isra 17:111, and Surah An-Nisa 4:171. These verses emphasize that Allah is unique, has no partners, and is not subject to the needs or limitations of having offspring. For instance, Surah Maryam 19:35 states, "It does not befit Allah to take for Himself a son. Glory be to Him!"
We shall execute vengeance on the nations, and punishments on the peoples; to bind their kings with chains; and, their nobles with fetters of iron; to execute upon them the written judgment--this honor have all His saints.
My own prayer life is not as strong as I would like to admit; however, my study life is very; very strong.
Among the visions; and, dreams I have personally had one stands out showing me what awaits me.
Shalom,
James E. Matthews
The Driver's Seat Preacher
Email: 10virginsparable@gmail.com
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Session 6: "The Day of the LORD"
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Session 9: "Rapture Problems Answered"
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Issue 1
"What's In A Name?" LINK
Issue 2
"Are We Experience the Birth Pangs" LINK
Issue 3
"The Meaning & Significance of 'Koloboo in Matthew 24:22
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Issue 4
"Hermeneutic The Key to Understanding Scripture"
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Issue 5
"Legs to Stand On"
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Issue 6
"The Theological Winds of Change: Significance for the Rapture Question (Part1)
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Issue 7
"Dispensational Foundations: Acts Joel and Revelation (Part 2)
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Issue 8
"That Other Gospel"
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Issue 9
"The Parousia of Jesus Christ"
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Issue 10
"Fight Flight or Faith?"
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Issue 11
"An Interview With Robert Van Kampen Author of : 'The Sign' "
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Issue 12
"The Prophetic Pillars of the Pre-Wrath Position" Part 1 The Timing of the 70th Week of Daniel LINK
Issue 13
"The Prophetic Pillars of the Pre-Wrath Position" Part 2
The Rapture Initiates the Day of the LORD
Issue 14 "The Prophetic Pillars of the Pre-Wrath Position" Part 3
LINK The Salvation of Israel Occurs After the 70th Week of Daniel Ends
Issue 15 "The Prophetic Pillars of the Pre-Wrath Position" Part 4
LINK God Almighty Takes Back His Rule of Earth After the 70th Week of Daniel
Issue 16 "The Prophetic Pillars of the Pre-Wrath Position" Part 5
LINK The Battle of Armageddon Occurs 30 Days After the Conclusion
of Daniel's 70th Week
Issue 17 "Pseudo Ephraim and the Diadeche Weighing the Evidence"
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Issue 18 "The Troubler of Israel: The Correct Interpretation of Jeremiah 30:7"
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Issue 19 "Amillennialism: Examining it's 'Origins' "
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Issue 20 "Examining an Amillennial Interpretation of Revelation 20:1-6"
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